After witnessing to Westboro Baptist Church in Indianapolis, I was left with a severely confused view of their position on the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Great Commission. Therefore, I contacted the Westboro Baptist group and requested an official interview regarding these issues. They agreed to the terms, and Part I was posted yesterday. Today, the second part of the interview is posted.
The full interview consists of 29 questions regarding practical and theological issues. Due to the length of the interview, it has been broken up into two days. The first half of the interview was posted yesterday, and the second half is posted below. The remainder of the week will be dedicated to my response to their answers and positions.
WARNING: The response from Westboro does contain some cursing. The unedited version is a bit sloppy and does contain many passages of Scripture which were simply copied from a web version of the Bible. Therefore, in attempt to shorten the interview, I have cited the reference in most cases where the full chapter or large portion of Scripture was used. I will also provide a .pdf of the uncut version for your download at the conclusion of the interview.
11. What do you believe is required for a person to enter Heaven when he or she dies?
RESPONSE: Not a bad question Josh – and you are not the first to ask – check out this answer by Paul and let us let it do for this discussion (and again, notice the persecutions on the ground and the delivering hand of our God! Our God delights in delivering his people and he will deliver us as well – stay tuned for that – it will be a thing that causes the ears of them that hear it to tingle!!) Note in this excellent passage – those perverts did like Doomed america did – they violated their own laws when they dealt with Paul, and Silas – just like you brutes did when you put us on trial for our religion! Psssstttt – think First Amendment! YIKES. Further, check out the little church that was in the House of Lydia! Lovely! You see Josh – God has the exclusive prerogative of who will believe and where he will chose to deposit his word – who are those vessels that will be vessels of mercy that will bring forth good fruit and serve God in truth! That all belongs to God. You must have missed the lesson of Korah. You better get to the bottom of that Josh because the prophets talk about it again and again – even down to Jude – the second to the last book of the Bible – they were still talking about Sodom and Korah and Balaam and so much more of the OLD TESTAMENT EVENTS!! Stop trying to act like the Old Testament has nothing to do with us! Oh – and read the rest of Acts 16 – you will find at the beginning of all this – it is all about their money!
12. What is your understanding of Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15; Luke 24:44-49; and Acts 1:8?
RESPONSE: Here is what I say to your arrogant butt about these words and the rest of the Bible! SHUT YOUR MOUTH and OBEY YOUR GOD! Stop looking for something that will advantage YOU and promote your ego and humble yourself under the mighty hand of God! You have NOT been sent Josh – but you run anyway! You will NEVER have the Holy Spirit anywhere near you because you won’t obey! Check out some of these OBEY verses:
Exodus 15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.Exodus 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?Exodus 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.Leviticus 22:31 Therefore shall ye keep my commandments, and do them: I am the LORD.Leviticus 26:3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.Deuteronomy 4:40 Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.Deuteronomy 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!Deuteronomy 6:2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son’s son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.Deuteronomy 6:17 Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;Deuteronomy 7:11 Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.Deuteronomy 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.Deuteronomy 8:6 Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.Deuteronomy 10:13 To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?Deuteronomy 11:1 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway.Deuteronomy 11:8 Therefore shall ye keep all the commandments which I command you this day, that ye may be strong, and go in and possess the land, whither ye go to possess it;Deuteronomy 11:22 For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;Deuteronomy 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.Deuteronomy 13:18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.Deuteronomy 19:9 If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three:Deuteronomy 26:17 Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice:Deuteronomy 26:18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;Deuteronomy 27:1 And Moses with the elders of Israel commanded the people, saying, Keep all the commandments which I command you this day.Deuteronomy 28:9 The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways.Deuteronomy 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:Deuteronomy 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.Deuteronomy 30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.Joshua 22:5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.1Kings 2:3 And keep the charge of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and his testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that thou mayest prosper in all that thou doest, and whithersoever thou turnest thyself:1Kings 3:14 And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.1Kings 6:12 Concerning this house which thou art in building, if thou wilt walk in my statutes, and execute my judgments, and keep all my commandments to walk in them; then will I perform my word with thee, which I spake unto David thy father:1Kings 8:58 That he may incline our hearts unto him, to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and his statutes, and his judgments, which he commanded our fathers.1Kings 8:61 Let your heart therefore be perfect with the LORD our God, to walk in his statutes, and to keep his commandments, as at this day.1Kings 9:6 But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them:1Kings 11:38 And it shall be, if thou wilt hearken unto all that I command thee, and wilt walk in my ways, and do that is right in my sight, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as David my servant did; that I will be with thee, and build thee a sure house, as I built for David, and will give Israel unto thee.2 Kings 17:13 Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.2 Kings 23:3 And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant.1 Chronicles 28:8 Now therefore in the sight of all Israel the congregation of the LORD, and in the audience of our God, keep and seek for all the commandments of the LORD your God: that ye may possess this good land, and leave it for an inheritance for your children after you for ever.1 Chronicles 29:19 And give unto Solomon my son a perfect heart, to keep thy commandments, thy testimonies, and thy statutes, and to do all these things, and to build the palace, for the which I have made provision.2 Chronicles 34:31 And the king stood in his place, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments, and his testimonies, and his statutes, with all his heart, and with all his soul, to perform the words of the covenant which are written in this book.Nehemiah 1:9 But if ye turn unto me, and keep my commandments, and do them; though there were of you cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven, yet will I gather them from thence, and will bring them unto the place that I have chosen to set my name there.Psalm 78:7 That they might set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments:Psalm 89:31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;Psalm 103:18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.Psalm 119:60 I made haste, and delayed not to keep thy commandments.Psalm 119:115 Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God.Proverbs 3:1 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:Proverbs 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.Proverbs 7:1 My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.Proverbs 7:2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.Daniel 9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.Re 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Get your rebel mind around all those passages AND their context and then talk about that for a while and put away all your fluffy stuff!
13. Is Westboro Baptist Church the only true Church of God?
RESPONSE: I don’t know the answer to this question, as I don’t know about all the world – but as our preachments reach the ears of the whole world, we hear from this generation – these matters are NOT being done in a corner, so as the days pass and the words continue to drop like dew all over the world, if there is another church at this hour, we will hear from them. If the Lord tarries till next year, ask me this again. Meanwhile, the French will be here this next weekend to take the words and publish them again in their country!
14. Have you ever witnessed one person repent and turn to God through Jesus Christ as a result of your street corner messages of hate?
RESPONSE: YIKES – Josh – did you just call the faithful preaching of the Word of God hate? YIKES! You do that sin against your own soul.
15. Do you believe the God of the Old Testament is the same God of the New Testament?
RESPONSE: Josh – you dumb a__! Did you really ask that question? Of course there is only ONE GOD! Shut up your goofy mouth Josh! Let me help you with just one little puddle of words to get your blind back-side back on track! You better read EVERY WORD of EVERY CHAPTER that contains the following verses. Check it out now:
Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:Romans 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.1Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
16. Do you believe in divine acts of miracles by God?
RESPONSE: Yes Josh – God does miracles. That would be miracles 101 at Golden Candlestick University.
17. What is your understanding of Gospel missions?
RESPONSE: Stop majoring in the minors Josh – we have our ministry – we received it from our God – we jealously guard it! Our mission is to blind your eyes, stop up your ears and harden your dark, evil hearts! I love here ministry!
18. Who is responsible for sin in this world?
RESPONSE: Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
OBEY YOUR GOD JOSH, anything less than that is your sin – and you do that sin against your own soul. Further, after this sorry bit of words from you Josh, try not to talk. You are not acceptable to speak in public or out loud at all, unless it is in front of a mirror wherein you look at yourself and say over and over again – I will not speak out loud in public because I have caused so many to err from the truth. Repeat that over and over again, otherwise, don’t talk at all!
19. Who is the cure for evil and sin in this world?
RESPONSE: I have to tell you Josh – a frontal lobotomy might be a cure for your evil and sin – either that or I’m afraid that it might take death and hell to cure you of all your foolish and unlearned questions.
20. Do you believe that a homosexual can be saved? If so, how?
RESPONSE: You need to read these words from these two passages and then answer this question for yourself!
Before you read, get this framework: God GAVE THEM UP to that filth! GOD is the ONLY SOURCE THAT CAN DRAW THEM TO CHRIST! Do you see a practical problem with this whole “I can win that perverts soul to Christ!” thing Josh?
Romans 1:18-32John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
21. How does your message of hate move homosexuals toward repentance to a Holy and righteous God?
RESPONSE: Again with calling the Word of God hate! YIKES! Look dummy – it is NOT your job to worry about how the faithfully reported Word of God lands upon the ears of the hearer! God controls the hearts of men – so how they receive the Word is HIS prerogative! So get your stupid mitts off of that arena!
22. What is your goal in your messages of hatred at the funeral of dead soldiers?
RESPONSE: We publish the Gospel of Peace – it is life and health to this nation – it is marrow to your bones – if you will hear and heed this warning, your own never-dying soul will benefit – but if not – Destruction, Death and Hell await you! Period!
23. If you could sum up the mission of Westboro Baptist Church in one word, what would it be?
RESPONSE: Forget that one word nonsense. We faithfully preach the Word of God to this adulterous and sinful generation of rebels against their God with NO cause!
24. God has revealed Himself in two basic ways to His creation. The first is through general revelation. That is through the world that God created and the systems that are put into place by God. The second type of revelation is contained in a Book – The Bible. The completed Word reveals the love of God in Jesus Christ and His atoning death upon the cross for sinners. The question is — Is general revelation capable of bringing a person to salvation?
RESPONSE: First – your statement leaves out ONE IMPORTANT ELEMENT – REPENT!! There is NO forgiveness without repentance! The Love of God is reserved for the penitent! NOT the rebels that will live in sin and make it their vocation and lie on God, etc, etc! STOP LYING ON GOD JOSH!
Romans 1 answers your question about what the so-called general revelation does – check it out now:
Read that again and again till you wrap your rebel brain around it Josh – that revealed evidence of God – his creation and all things that you see before your rebel eyes makes you without excuse for denying the sovereignty of God and his POWER!
25. Since you had signs at the Southern Baptist Convention in Indianapolis calling SBC pastors liars, that would include me. Therefore, on what basis do you consider me a liar?RESPONSE: I’m so glad you asked that question Josh. I have pointed out some of your lies above – how do you brutes lie – let me take a run at this and try not to wear myself slick – it is after all, the middle of the night.
1. You liars say that you have a free will.2. You liars say that God loves everyone.3. You liars say that you can win souls to Christ.4. You liars say that you can accept Christ as your own personal Savior.5. You liars deny the deity of God!
Need I go on? Other than this Mrs. Lincoln how was the play?
26. How does your message of hate move a man like myself to repent – if what you say is true?
RESPONSE: What you just did was confirm the words of the prophet Isaiah (I love Isaiah – our #5 child is Isaiah J) –
Here it is Josh – if God does not have mercy upon you – for he hath mercy upon WHOM HE WILL AND WHOM HE WILL, HE HARDENS! – you will NEVER believe and repent! That is NOT my problem and NOT my interest. Check out these words of David which I love:
You see Josh – we don’t own salvation – and some matters are not crystal clear to me – so I don’t worry about those matters. Because the secret things belong to the Lord our God – but the revealed things belong to us and our children FOREVER, so that we can OBEY our God! OBEY OUR GOD Josh! Forget the things you don’t fully understand! If you will OBEY the crystal clear things, and seek God from a pure heart in truth, he will open the eyes of your understanding and give you wisdom and knowledge and understanding! BUT JOSH – the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and understanding. If you have reduced God to Mr. Peanut the hapless, helpless lump that is weeping over your rebellion, instead of the consuming FIRE that is kicking your rebel a__, you are NOT seeking God from a pure heart – NO – you seek him from a raised fist and your flipper finger out!
Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
If God does not open your eyes, they will NEVER BE OPEN! Shut your mouth and read Romans 9.
At the end of the day, I don’t give a rat’s backside if you repent or not! THAT IS NOT MY BUSINESS!
27. Is there anyone or any group who is beyond the reach of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
RESPONSE: WHAT??! What did you say dummy?
28. What is your official position on the last days (eschatology)?
RESPONSE: I answered this above! If you would bother to read Matthew 24; Luke 17, 18 & 21 and Mark 13 – and you are not completely blind, you will see that we are in the very last days of all! It is simply lovely!
While you are reading some scary things for you, check out Psalm 149 – it is that part where our God has AGAIN promised his faithful servants that we will be permitted to bind your rebel butts with chains and fetters of iron. You see Josh, we slipped around this nation for 18 years, every single day, faithfully telling you what your God requires of you and you mocked and scoffed and we sewed and sewed this precious seed. NOW – you are bound – and it is with chains and fetters of iron. Pursuant to Psalm 78, God sent us forth, evil angles (not evil people, but delivering the message of evil that God intends toward you) so that today, our faithful God is pouring out his wrath, pursuant to our words of warning. You KNOW our faithful God would not send us forth all these long years to warn and NEVER confirm our words! Had you only bothered to read 2 Chronicles 36:11 to 16 or 17 or more, you would have found the blueprint for your destruction that is upon you at this hour! YIKES!
29. What is your official position on the Trinity?
RESPONSE: God in three persons, blessed trinity! One God – triune!
NOTE: This interview was conducted after having an encounter with Westboro at the annual Southern Baptist Convention in 2008.